Episode 20: The Failure of Mask Mandates, Public Health and Central Planning with John Tierney, Former New York Times Science Writer, Author and Contributing Editor at City Journal
Episode 20: The Failure of Mask Mandates, Public Health and Central Planning with John Tierney, Former New York Times Science Writer, Author and Contributing Editor at City Journal
Listen now | The latest podcast episode is a fascinating conversation with John Tierney from City Journal discussing his fantastic work documenting the lack of justification for vaccine mandates for kids, the failures of Dr. Fauci and Deborah Birx, and society's addiction to crisis.
Really hope the Crisis Industrial Complex loses a bit of its critical mass for reasons discussed here. I'll definitely need to check out The Power of Bad!
So sad I will miss this due to the SW failure. Looks like it would be wonderful. Better software? Thanks for all you do, Ian. It is really important work.
First off, I've always enjoyed Tierney's work going back to his expose on recycling a number of years ago. I have a question though about the source or origins of how masks came to be accepted. I found it odd how decades' worth of studies was suddenly shunned and ignored in 2020. What was even more bizarre is that public health officials, in the beginning, said the right things about masks and were following the actual science and data (including here in Canada). Yet, but a month later they reversed and changed course. Unless the body of evidence was overt turned in a few weeks (yeh right), what could possibly have been the catalyst?
I've been researching masks and reading up on it since 2020 (and plan to read Ian's book) and one name that kept popping up in the fervently pro-mask camp was Jeremy Howard. Does anyone know anything about him? His name seems to be on most of the studies supporting masks so I found this peculiar.
Data is meaningless unless it is replicated in real world applications, and here it is not. There is no measurable positive difference has been observed when schools that masked were compared with those that did not.
Masks do not, can not stop viruses and can, and data show that this might be happening, make it easier for the wearer to catch and to spread the disease.
Do not know where you are getting your info from, but New York and California have had numbers at or near the top, not just over all, but also proportion of population.
However, as there not a single, universal method of assigning cause of death to Covid in the US. The criteria for counting a death as a Covid death differs from State to State and sometimes even from one area of a State and another within the same State. Look at numbers from countries and areas of countries that kept their schools open for in person instruction and did not mask and compare those with countries that required masks. Make sure that the countries being compared count cases the same way.
Now? Now? NY has lost a huge number of people who have left that state’s crazy Covid policies. Florida is one of the top destinations for those who fled NY. I have seen several lists of Covid deaths and what I have seen, even with the many differing criteria used by different areas, I have not seen anything even remotely even close to what you say. True, I have I not looked very recently, but that has been true for most of the time people have sated as you have.
Several confounding factors here beyond the disparate methods of assigning covid as cause of death between States. One is as I mention above, NY and California and Illinois have had huge numbers of their residents flee to Florida, Texas and other “red” States. Another if when the comparisons are made. Covid, like flu, is seasonal. I makes its rounds in NY in the winter when everyone is indoors due to the cold. Florida, however, experiences Covid the most in summer when more people spend more time indoors with air conditioning to escape the heat. Then we have the fact that Florida is home to many retirees from all around the world who settle there to spend their final days in the warmth of the sun. It has been long known that the elderly are easier pickings for Covid. NY did a good job eliminating many of their most vulnerable with its misguided policy of send covid patients into nursing homes and thereby wiping out large numbers of people early on.
Tierney is a national treasure. Thanks for featuring him and his work.
Really hope the Crisis Industrial Complex loses a bit of its critical mass for reasons discussed here. I'll definitely need to check out The Power of Bad!
So sad I will miss this due to the SW failure. Looks like it would be wonderful. Better software? Thanks for all you do, Ian. It is really important work.
Your link to "Unmasked" actually leads us once again to "The Power of Bad." Here is the correct link to "Unmasked." https://www.amazon.com/Unmasked-Global-Failure-COVID-Mandates-ebook/dp/B09RKQG1PH/
Thanks for finding that! Fixed now.
Brilliant! Sharing it with everyone I know.
Brilliant! Sharing it with everyone I know.
First off, I've always enjoyed Tierney's work going back to his expose on recycling a number of years ago. I have a question though about the source or origins of how masks came to be accepted. I found it odd how decades' worth of studies was suddenly shunned and ignored in 2020. What was even more bizarre is that public health officials, in the beginning, said the right things about masks and were following the actual science and data (including here in Canada). Yet, but a month later they reversed and changed course. Unless the body of evidence was overt turned in a few weeks (yeh right), what could possibly have been the catalyst?
I've been researching masks and reading up on it since 2020 (and plan to read Ian's book) and one name that kept popping up in the fervently pro-mask camp was Jeremy Howard. Does anyone know anything about him? His name seems to be on most of the studies supporting masks so I found this peculiar.
Fun fact, there was an entire TV show about how experts can go horribly wrong that I recently wrote about.
Yet people haven't thought it through how experts are just as fallible as any other human.
Data is meaningless unless it is replicated in real world applications, and here it is not. There is no measurable positive difference has been observed when schools that masked were compared with those that did not.
Masks do not, can not stop viruses and can, and data show that this might be happening, make it easier for the wearer to catch and to spread the disease.
Do not know where you are getting your info from, but New York and California have had numbers at or near the top, not just over all, but also proportion of population.
However, as there not a single, universal method of assigning cause of death to Covid in the US. The criteria for counting a death as a Covid death differs from State to State and sometimes even from one area of a State and another within the same State. Look at numbers from countries and areas of countries that kept their schools open for in person instruction and did not mask and compare those with countries that required masks. Make sure that the countries being compared count cases the same way.
Now? Now? NY has lost a huge number of people who have left that state’s crazy Covid policies. Florida is one of the top destinations for those who fled NY. I have seen several lists of Covid deaths and what I have seen, even with the many differing criteria used by different areas, I have not seen anything even remotely even close to what you say. True, I have I not looked very recently, but that has been true for most of the time people have sated as you have.
Several confounding factors here beyond the disparate methods of assigning covid as cause of death between States. One is as I mention above, NY and California and Illinois have had huge numbers of their residents flee to Florida, Texas and other “red” States. Another if when the comparisons are made. Covid, like flu, is seasonal. I makes its rounds in NY in the winter when everyone is indoors due to the cold. Florida, however, experiences Covid the most in summer when more people spend more time indoors with air conditioning to escape the heat. Then we have the fact that Florida is home to many retirees from all around the world who settle there to spend their final days in the warmth of the sun. It has been long known that the elderly are easier pickings for Covid. NY did a good job eliminating many of their most vulnerable with its misguided policy of send covid patients into nursing homes and thereby wiping out large numbers of people early on.